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MinnMax's Ben Hanson put together Tim Schafer from Double Fine and Hazelight Studios' Josef Fares to talk about Psychonauts 2, It Takes Two, and designing a great platformer in 2021. They cover a lot of ground, like comparing development timelines, sharing advice on making a sequel, and weighing the pros and cons of staying independent. If you enjoy this discussion, please subscribe to MinnMax's YouTube channel or support us on Patreon to unlock the podcast version of this interview and more!